Episode 20

Real Women Real Lives > Stop Being Reasonable
Stop Being Reasonable

With Barbara Patterson + Melissa Palazzo-Hart

In today’s episode, Barb and Melissa discuss how perceiving something as unreasonable comes from doubt, especially when we are in uncharted territory. They encourage us to get less ‘reasonable’ and listen to our wisdom rather than preconceived ways of doing things. 

In what areas of life could you get a little less reasonable?


  • Barb shares her experience over the past couple of months where she has come face to face with reasonable thinking looking, well, reasonable—and not recognizing it as doubt. [00:03:53]
  • Melissa is fired up at Barb’s assertion that being unreasonable is actually a good thing. She incredulously conveys ways ‘unreasonable’ has gotten us to where we are today. [00:06:47]
  • Melissa discusses the time Human Resources literally laughed at her ‘unreasonable’ request, and the fortitude she had to push beyond their reaction and get what she wanted. [00:07:37]
  • Barb conveys her distrust of things that are reasonable just to be reasonable, even calling out that many times our construct of ‘reasonable’ is actually an illusion. [00:13:38]
  • Melissa reminisces about a conversation she had many years ago with an executive about people working remotely. That idea was not well-received, and was even deemed ‘unreasonable.’ Get the picture yet? [00:16:15]
Do You Have Questions for Barb & Melissa?


Meet Your Hosts

Barbara Patterson is the owner of a global coaching and consulting company bringing the insights of performance and fulfillment to clients around the world. She helps organizations, leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches access more clarity, creativity, have greater impact and higher levels of performance in work and life. Barb is the Founder of Beyond Limits in Business and is hosting the BEYOND LIMITS BUSINESS SUMMIT in Edinburgh Scotland this May.

You can follow Barb on Linkedin, Twitter and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at

Melissa Palazzo-Hart has 25 years’ experience leading marketing, strategy, finance, operations, and talent for some of the most prestigious agencies and brands including Disney, Activision and Omnicom. Throughout her career, she has built campaigns for some of the biggest names in entertainment and media which have been awarded Emmy Awards, Cannes Lion Awards, Effies, Telly Awards, Game Marketing Awards, Broadcast Design Association Gold Awards, and Clio Awards. Melissa is building a movement of paradigm shifters to unlock the potential of their minds to affect change in our world through seeing and living beyond perceived limits. She guides leaders and organizations at the highest levels how to make a meaningful impact through the power of heart work, instead of hard work.

You can follow Melissa on Linkedin and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at


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