Episode 17

Real Women Real Lives > Let That Elephant Go!
Let That Elephant Go!

With Barbara Patterson + Melissa Palazzo-Hart

In today’s episode, Melissa and Barb discuss the illusion of limits through the eyes of a baby elephant. They learn at an early age that they don’t have the strength to break free from bondage—until they get bigger and do, in fact, have the power to break free. Then why don’t they?

Barb and Melissa discuss the phenomenon of how beliefs shape our reality—even when that belief is errant. 


  • Melissa sets the stage for this episode by sharing the nature of baby elephants learning at a young age that they do not have the strength to break a small rope that holds them in captivity and hang onto that belief even when they grow into adults and are capable of breaking free. [00:01:57]
  • Barb talks about how she once believed personality to be fixed, then realized that personality is fluid. Even our preferences are based on historical data, not real-time likes and dislikes. [00:08:56]
  • Melissa anecdotally conveys how she recognized that previous preferences don’t have to persist but can, instead, shift from a ‘like’ or a ‘dislike’ at any given moment. [00:11:06]
  • Barb asks us to reflect on how we know we do or don’t like something? Aren’t likes and dislikes something we formed in the past? Maybe it’s time to reevaluate. [00:13:39]
  • Melissa talks about her errant thinking that knowing what’s coming around the corner in life, or being prepared, has kept her from living a juicy and fulfilling life. [00:14:22]
  • Barb and Melissa ask us to evaluate the “ropes that bind us” from which we could free ourselves if only we dropped the belief that they are somehow fixed and irremovable. [00:15:26]
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Meet Your Hosts

Barbara Patterson is the owner of a global coaching and consulting company bringing the insights of performance and fulfillment to clients around the world. She helps organizations, leaders, entrepreneurs and coaches access more clarity, creativity, have greater impact and higher levels of performance in work and life. Barb is the Founder of Beyond Limits in Business and is hosting the BEYOND LIMITS BUSINESS SUMMIT in Edinburgh Scotland this May.

You can follow Barb on Linkedin, Twitter and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at

Melissa Palazzo-Hart has 25 years’ experience leading marketing, strategy, finance, operations, and talent for some of the most prestigious agencies and brands including Disney, Activision and Omnicom. Throughout her career, she has built campaigns for some of the biggest names in entertainment and media which have been awarded Emmy Awards, Cannes Lion Awards, Effies, Telly Awards, Game Marketing Awards, Broadcast Design Association Gold Awards, and Clio Awards. Melissa is building a movement of paradigm shifters to unlock the potential of their minds to affect change in our world through seeing and living beyond perceived limits. She guides leaders and organizations at the highest levels how to make a meaningful impact through the power of heart work, instead of hard work.

You can follow Melissa on Linkedin and Instagram. You can also subscribe to her weekly blog on her website at


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